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Alex Styl

Alex Styl
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@alexstyl

Quit Apple to build my online business from 0.
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Joined November 2023
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this is a builder community. builders learn by building.

if we were in your shoes we would build

I was excited when I saw that there was a response, but meh. disappointing reply.

Why would you assume I wouldn’t build? Even builders begin by taking some path of learning first.

i assume you don't build because your last done was 3 months ago

posting ≠ building buddy

Sure, posting on WIP isn’t building. That said, you seem to be getting triggered over this but @alexstyl is absolutely right. The most successful people I know just:
1. Try building something
2. When stuck, Google or ChatGPT. Or even ask a question on a forum like this, but a much more targeted one. Usually some form of “I tried X, Y, and Z but can’t get Q to work. Any suggestions for workarounds?” - not some elementary level question like “how do I learn python?” At the end of the day, people are more likely to help you when you’ve told them what you’ve tried already, otherwise you come across as someone who isn’t willing to put in any effort or just wants to be spoonfed knowledge.
3. Rinse and repeat

You say you have 10 years of experience - with that much experience you should have already “learned how to learn” and unblock yourself. I used to coach engineers on my team about this as it’s what separates people who can ship and are assets vs. those that can’t and will slow the team down (or in the case of entrepreneurship, it’s a showstopper for building a successful company)

That might sound harsh but this is super important to running a business or building your own products too too. You have to be willing to execute, try things on your own + get it done at all costs with a minimal amount of outside assistance.

I'm triggered cause of the expectations I had with this platform. I asked a simple question but he chose to respond with some generic "builders build" comment, taking an opportunity to stroke his own ego.

I've asked the same question on Twitter, and some other communities, and got amazing responses!

The key to my question is the timeline: Max knowledge of fundamentals in a short period of time. If anything I see it as a mental resourcing challenge.

Entrepreneurs with intellectual humility would have better responses than trying to grandstand.

If you're wondering what a quality response looks like, I got these on other platforms:

  1. Watch Andrej Karpathy's YouTube video series.
  2. Book suggestion: Hands-on machine learning with scikit learn O'Reilly.

I know how to learn, but when there are millions of sources to learn on the internet, I was just looking for some specific direction from somebody who's done it before.

You’re reading way too much into it and you’re way off center. There’s no ego stroking - “just build it” is legit advice for learning something new, particularly on a fast timeline, and on a free platform I have no idea why you would have any expectations in terms of the responses you’d receive. It would be a different story if you were paying for mentorship or something along those lines.

If he really wanted to say "just build it," there's a difference between saying:

  1. "building is the best way" versus
  2. "this is a builder community. builders learn by building. if we were in your shoes we would build"

I know this is a building community. He automatically assumed that I wasn't a builder purely cause I didn't keep my streak up. The language is indicative of virtue signaling -- that he and his gang of builders are superior to someone asking a genuine question.

This doesn't require too much reading into it. The english is plain grandstanding and in-grouping.

Ok, tl;dr you don't like the way the answer was worded and your feelings were hurt. Fair. I'd still encourage you to a) remain centered even if you don't like some feedback you're getting b) look at the core of the answer vs. the way it was worded.

It's what worked for me too. I went from 0 to 1 in Python learning on the job shipping code and building stuff to meet a deadline. I don't know another effective way of learning a new skill fast.

Good luck!

if you want to learn how to design websites, start by copying websites you like. find something similar and recreate the UI. eventually you will figure out the patterns and start creating your own design. that's how it works.

if you still feel like you need study material, have a look at Refactoring UI. it's a book about design for developers, by the creators of tailwind Ui.

if you don't really care about design and you just want to build stuff that look good, buy tailwind ui since you already mentioned it.

I haven't come across any 'pending todo' feature, so I don't think I would miss it.

I only use /done on the telegram bot and scroll the post on the site to see what people are up to/have accomplished.

Yea, it's somewhat unintuitive to access it - you have to type out the todo then uncheck the green checkbox if using the website (unsure about telegram, I don't use the WIP bot on TG)

Woah dude. Hold on.

You are not the one to say if your ideas suck or not. The market does.

How about you build one of the ideas with as little effort as possible (MVP) so you see if there is traction?

Usually ideas that work, work from the start.

Yes, I think I need to work on something new, and see a little bit a traction to keep going at it. Thanks!

by spending the minimum effort to attract them.

it could be a blog post, a twitter post, reddit post, mini tool website etc, to see if there is interest.

It depends on your definition of 'requires no more building'.

Markets and people change all the time. Because of this, there will always be something that can be improved.

Because of this, it depends on where you draw the line. I have realized that I want my products to be 'done' as soon as the MVP is shipped. Then, depending on traction I continue working on them, or focus on marketing, or move on to other products.

Ignore and move on. People who usually have never built or achieved anything are the first to critize.

It might be worth having a dedicated channel about feedback for your app so you reduce the 'random' feedback as much as you can.

Ye this came from my outreach efforts. Some people just love to tear everything down 🤷

they do. they are not your customers though so who cares