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Marc Köhlbrugge

Marc Köhlbrugge
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Yeah agree with you on Telegram. If it becomes a problem we'd either need to push the other groups we have a bit more (maybe create cohort-specific groups in addition to the topic-based groups we already have).

I'm also considering Slack, Discord, or even creating something custom that's better optimized for WIP.

Having too many members for the chat would be a nice problem to have tho :)

Maybe a monthly challenge. Ship in six days or something like that may work.

Ah yes! Want to do these for sure. Like diferent themes. Marketing week where we all do marketing for one week. Hackathons where we all try and ship something by a certain date. Etc.

Yes, this would be so perfect! Love hackathons)

Thanks! Yes my hope is that WIP is well worth the $20/mo fee and fortunately that seems to be the case for many members.

However, it's still a big barrier for new people and makes it hard to get new people in. Hence the proposal of first getting (relevant) members through the door with a free plan, and once they are convinced of the value offer additional functionality and access with a paid membership.

What about only allowing paid members to give free invites?

If people really like the community, they'll want to invite their friends - and they'll need to upgrade.

In addition, you can also have several paid features, such as creating discussions, roasts, etc.

More or less, only private tasks and chat would be free; ex. they wouldn't be able to. post /done to the main wipchat but only to their account - they can, on the other hand, engage in chat/discussions/roasts.

Nice, yes these are some great suggestions for pro-only features 👍

The only thing I want to be careful with is making "invites" a perk of being a paying member. As then people might feel entitled to get them, whereas I'd like to keep the option to be selective about who get to invited other members.

But it's definitely something we can experiment with

Or are you saying just keep charging the $20/mo like we do now? But make it invite-only?

The "problem" I'm trying to solve is there's relatively few new members joining each month. So if we were to restrict it further (making it invite-only), that just makes matter worse.

Or are you saying just keep charging the $20/mo like we do now?

I'm +1 keeping a paid plan. I'd experiment with pricing to see if that's a barrier. May factor in purchasing power parity (big mac index) since ~$200 does not scale outside of US/UK/Europe very well.

But make it invite-only?
How would #3 work without #1?

I think invite-only free accounts are a decent model to avoid SPAM. I have invited several but I think that leap from free for a month to mentally ~$20/year or $150/yr might have scared a few off.

If you have a distinct line between paid and unpaid features, then that gives people an incentive to want to pay you. I'm that way with Twitter too. I would love to pay them but not for what Twitter Blue gives me when I'd pay to never see an ad.

Oh nice. You just gave me a crazy idea.

What if we showed ads to free members. But instead of regular ads, they would be ads for the products of the paying members!

How would #3 work without #1?

Or are you saying just keep charging the $20/mo like we do now? But make it invite-only?

The "problem" I'm trying to solve is there's relatively few new members joining each month. So if we were to restrict it further (making it invite-only), that just makes matter worse.

Or are you saying just keep charging the $20/mo like we do now?

I'm +1 keeping a paid plan. I'd experiment with pricing to see if that's a barrier. May factor in purchasing power parity (big mac index) since ~$200 does not scale outside of US/UK/Europe very well.

But make it invite-only?
How would #3 work without #1?

I think invite-only free accounts are a decent model to avoid SPAM. I have invited several but I think that leap from free for a month to mentally ~$20/year or $150/yr might have scared a few off.

If you have a distinct line between paid and unpaid features, then that gives people an incentive to want to pay you. I'm that way with Twitter too. I would love to pay them but not for what Twitter Blue gives me when I'd pay to never see an ad.

Oh nice. You just gave me a crazy idea.

What if we showed ads to free members. But instead of regular ads, they would be ads for the products of the paying members!

We don't have (or had) any lifetime plan, but I think you joined early on before we introduced the paywall? All those early accounts kept the free plan.

Premium feature could definitely include voice chats. Or maybe you'd get priority for speaking, or proposing topics, etc. Lots of things we can do here.

Good ideas and good to get more engagements. I remember paying a once off fee.

I looked into it, and you were one of the first to become a paying patron so thank you for that!

It was a $100/year payment that didn't automatically renew and I never reached out to ask people to renew because it didn't feel right to ask for more money.

So you had the "patron" status for that one year. But because you initially joined WIP before we made a paid membership required, you were also grandfathered into a lifelong free membership.

BTW, random monetization idea: add one rule that shows a video ad along with the text "Watch the ad, or drink to skip"

I don't drink, don't play Jenga, and do not code React. So there's your disclaimer :)

But having tried the app, it seems to do what it should! The only suggestion I have right now is to allow people to add their own rules.

BTW, random monetization idea: add one rule that shows a video ad along with the text "Watch the ad, or drink to skip"

Yes, great points on all accounts.

I want to embrace people sharing life updates and other non-work projects. But I agree it would also be nice to filter them.

Thinking what categories we should have. Most obvious would be "personal" and "work". Some others would be "health" and "hobby". Anything else that comes to mind?

'Fitness 💪' updates could go under 'Health ♥️', but it could also be its own category.

I think 'Food & Drinks 🍽' would likely be a popular category here, too.

'Misc 👀' would be a good general catch-all.

Maybe “visible for everyone in their feed”?

Haha. No I like the idea of having different "types" of projects.

For example a project could be "business" or "hobby". And that would let you filter WIP so that you can see everybody's hobbies haha. Might be kinda fun.

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