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Jason Leow

Jason Leow

@jasonleow

Indie hacker | Creating a diverse portfolio of products + services to $10k monthly revenue. 🔌 plugins.carrd.co ✍️ golifelog.com 🏛 outsprint.io 📋 listskit.com
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Will crunch numbers and find patterns, like how much time spent marketing vs building, revenue ups and downs, who are my customers, how much they spend, how often, how many recurring, from which countries, which profile spends the most, which plan has most customers, was there a spike in traffic when i tried this marketing hack, did this feature bring more customers etc etc. Do foresee might haver to upload or sync other data like from stripe or analytics to be able to answer those questions

I see. That would indeed require a many other data sources as well. Not sure that's a direction I'm willing to go, but perhaps I can provide WIP as a data source so service offering these kind of services. (I think ChatGPT will do this at some point)

Ah i see. Hmm for WIP data related questions, I can think of: how much % tasks spent on coding vs marketing, which time of year am I most productive, any patterns of highs and lows of work, which product has the best streaks, what kind of tasks i do the most, are they busy work or work that moves the needle on revenue. "I have this problem, who else had solved it or working on it before." "I have an idea, how many other WIP indies had built it, launched it, made it profitable."

@marc You know how you can upload an excel sheet and chat with gpt about it, ask it to crunch numbers and analyse, spot opportunities ? Imagine uploading the entire logs of a product and asking wip ai anything related to it

Ah right. Yeah that's what I'm getting at with this post. What questions would you ask this WIP AI?

Will crunch numbers and find patterns, like how much time spent marketing vs building, revenue ups and downs, who are my customers, how much they spend, how often, how many recurring, from which countries, which profile spends the most, which plan has most customers, was there a spike in traffic when i tried this marketing hack, did this feature bring more customers etc etc. Do foresee might haver to upload or sync other data like from stripe or analytics to be able to answer those questions

I see. That would indeed require a many other data sources as well. Not sure that's a direction I'm willing to go, but perhaps I can provide WIP as a data source so service offering these kind of services. (I think ChatGPT will do this at some point)

Ah i see. Hmm for WIP data related questions, I can think of: how much % tasks spent on coding vs marketing, which time of year am I most productive, any patterns of highs and lows of work, which product has the best streaks, what kind of tasks i do the most, are they busy work or work that moves the needle on revenue. "I have this problem, who else had solved it or working on it before." "I have an idea, how many other WIP indies had built it, launched it, made it profitable."

Chat about my product the same way I can chat about an excel sheet.

This could be nice and make us share more details about our products as one can get more value out of it too.

What does this mean? 😅

@marc You know how you can upload an excel sheet and chat with gpt about it, ask it to crunch numbers and analyse, spot opportunities ? Imagine uploading the entire logs of a product and asking wip ai anything related to it

Ah right. Yeah that's what I'm getting at with this post. What questions would you ask this WIP AI?

Will crunch numbers and find patterns, like how much time spent marketing vs building, revenue ups and downs, who are my customers, how much they spend, how often, how many recurring, from which countries, which profile spends the most, which plan has most customers, was there a spike in traffic when i tried this marketing hack, did this feature bring more customers etc etc. Do foresee might haver to upload or sync other data like from stripe or analytics to be able to answer those questions

I see. That would indeed require a many other data sources as well. Not sure that's a direction I'm willing to go, but perhaps I can provide WIP as a data source so service offering these kind of services. (I think ChatGPT will do this at some point)

Ah i see. Hmm for WIP data related questions, I can think of: how much % tasks spent on coding vs marketing, which time of year am I most productive, any patterns of highs and lows of work, which product has the best streaks, what kind of tasks i do the most, are they busy work or work that moves the needle on revenue. "I have this problem, who else had solved it or working on it before." "I have an idea, how many other WIP indies had built it, launched it, made it profitable."

Yes slow for me too. Takes 2-3s on average to load a new page. Browser console shows this:

Jujst tried to upload a picture into my todo today but it doesn't seem to load 😅

Depends what kind of learner your sibling/friend is. Self-directed, intrinsically motivated and prefer learning by doing? Then just start building something small. Pick up bits and pieces of code and knowledge along the way.

But if learner style is more mainstream/traditional, prefer classes, theory than practice, having a tutor handholding, then take Udemy or Youtube courses first.

Re: openai integration, how about pre built modules for popular ai tasks like image generation (dalle), chat with pdf/doc (gpt4), speech to text (whisper), etc

A few others I've seen:

  • admin dashboard
  • roadmap
  • chatbot
  • openAI integration

Btw let me know when you launch! Will add to my SaaS Starters directory (listskit.com/saasstarters/).

Will do!

Technically did launch last year but will submit once I've gotten the next phase done :)

I already have the admin dashboard done (Laravel is really spoiled with tools like Nova and Filament).

Roadmap is a good one! OpenAI integration as well I've been thinking on doing, there's packages for it, but not sure what to add beyond just the default installation.

Re: openai integration, how about pre built modules for popular ai tasks like image generation (dalle), chat with pdf/doc (gpt4), speech to text (whisper), etc

Adding to that:
- Login/Logout
- Account settings (super important imho)
- privacy page
- cookie banner

Missed this comment!

Yeah, Laravel already gives auth & account settings for free with Jetstream, Breeze or Fortify packages ;)

Got T&Cs and Privacy pages, have added cookie banner over the weekend.

If it was me: I'd just build it. No one has a monopoly on ideas.

Besides you have some key differentiators. It's not like a one-to-one clone.

If you want to remain on friendly terms with the indie hacker, maybe drop a DM to share your thoughts and plans, and shake hands on the friendly competition ahead? 😊

Way more concise than my blurb. Maybe I can learn from it :)

I second this. There are clear differentiators, and besides, the business world is designed on people seeing something in the wild and making tweaks.

I love the idea about reaching out to the creator to just start a conversation. Not to explain yourself (because you have nothing to explain or apologize for) but use it as an opportunity to expand your network and potentially collaborate.

@cat Makes sense - I guess I was thinking like this but sometimes it is nice to see if other people reason the same way. Better safe than sorry :)

@jasonleow lol, sorry, I seem to accidentally have deleted that sub-thread.

I'll post about the project in this thread as soon as I start building. But all my products are free/ad-based, so you'll be able to access it. That is the point.

Loved that you wrote this down to share what happened. Appreciate it Marc 🤝