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Praneeth Pike

Praneeth Pike
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@praneethpike

Designer / Developer. I build tools to optimize for flow states.
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I'm triggered cause of the expectations I had with this platform. I asked a simple question but he chose to respond with some generic "builders build" comment, taking an opportunity to stroke his own ego.

I've asked the same question on Twitter, and some other communities, and got amazing responses!

The key to my question is the timeline: Max knowledge of fundamentals in a short period of time. If anything I see it as a mental resourcing challenge.

Entrepreneurs with intellectual humility would have better responses than trying to grandstand.

If you're wondering what a quality response looks like, I got these on other platforms:

  1. Watch Andrej Karpathy's YouTube video series.
  2. Book suggestion: Hands-on machine learning with scikit learn O'Reilly.

I know how to learn, but when there are millions of sources to learn on the internet, I was just looking for some specific direction from somebody who's done it before.

You’re reading way too much into it and you’re way off center. There’s no ego stroking - “just build it” is legit advice for learning something new, particularly on a fast timeline, and on a free platform I have no idea why you would have any expectations in terms of the responses you’d receive. It would be a different story if you were paying for mentorship or something along those lines.

If he really wanted to say "just build it," there's a difference between saying:

  1. "building is the best way" versus
  2. "this is a builder community. builders learn by building. if we were in your shoes we would build"

I know this is a building community. He automatically assumed that I wasn't a builder purely cause I didn't keep my streak up. The language is indicative of virtue signaling -- that he and his gang of builders are superior to someone asking a genuine question.

This doesn't require too much reading into it. The english is plain grandstanding and in-grouping.

Ok, tl;dr you don't like the way the answer was worded and your feelings were hurt. Fair. I'd still encourage you to a) remain centered even if you don't like some feedback you're getting b) look at the core of the answer vs. the way it was worded.

It's what worked for me too. I went from 0 to 1 in Python learning on the job shipping code and building stuff to meet a deadline. I don't know another effective way of learning a new skill fast.

Good luck!

posting ≠ building buddy

Sure, posting on WIP isn’t building. That said, you seem to be getting triggered over this but @alexstyl is absolutely right. The most successful people I know just:
1. Try building something
2. When stuck, Google or ChatGPT. Or even ask a question on a forum like this, but a much more targeted one. Usually some form of “I tried X, Y, and Z but can’t get Q to work. Any suggestions for workarounds?” - not some elementary level question like “how do I learn python?” At the end of the day, people are more likely to help you when you’ve told them what you’ve tried already, otherwise you come across as someone who isn’t willing to put in any effort or just wants to be spoonfed knowledge.
3. Rinse and repeat

You say you have 10 years of experience - with that much experience you should have already “learned how to learn” and unblock yourself. I used to coach engineers on my team about this as it’s what separates people who can ship and are assets vs. those that can’t and will slow the team down (or in the case of entrepreneurship, it’s a showstopper for building a successful company)

That might sound harsh but this is super important to running a business or building your own products too too. You have to be willing to execute, try things on your own + get it done at all costs with a minimal amount of outside assistance.

I'm triggered cause of the expectations I had with this platform. I asked a simple question but he chose to respond with some generic "builders build" comment, taking an opportunity to stroke his own ego.

I've asked the same question on Twitter, and some other communities, and got amazing responses!

The key to my question is the timeline: Max knowledge of fundamentals in a short period of time. If anything I see it as a mental resourcing challenge.

Entrepreneurs with intellectual humility would have better responses than trying to grandstand.

If you're wondering what a quality response looks like, I got these on other platforms:

  1. Watch Andrej Karpathy's YouTube video series.
  2. Book suggestion: Hands-on machine learning with scikit learn O'Reilly.

I know how to learn, but when there are millions of sources to learn on the internet, I was just looking for some specific direction from somebody who's done it before.

You’re reading way too much into it and you’re way off center. There’s no ego stroking - “just build it” is legit advice for learning something new, particularly on a fast timeline, and on a free platform I have no idea why you would have any expectations in terms of the responses you’d receive. It would be a different story if you were paying for mentorship or something along those lines.

If he really wanted to say "just build it," there's a difference between saying:

  1. "building is the best way" versus
  2. "this is a builder community. builders learn by building. if we were in your shoes we would build"

I know this is a building community. He automatically assumed that I wasn't a builder purely cause I didn't keep my streak up. The language is indicative of virtue signaling -- that he and his gang of builders are superior to someone asking a genuine question.

This doesn't require too much reading into it. The english is plain grandstanding and in-grouping.

Ok, tl;dr you don't like the way the answer was worded and your feelings were hurt. Fair. I'd still encourage you to a) remain centered even if you don't like some feedback you're getting b) look at the core of the answer vs. the way it was worded.

It's what worked for me too. I went from 0 to 1 in Python learning on the job shipping code and building stuff to meet a deadline. I don't know another effective way of learning a new skill fast.

Good luck!

I was excited when I saw that there was a response, but meh. disappointing reply.

Why would you assume I wouldn’t build? Even builders begin by taking some path of learning first.

i assume you don't build because your last done was 3 months ago

posting ≠ building buddy

Sure, posting on WIP isn’t building. That said, you seem to be getting triggered over this but @alexstyl is absolutely right. The most successful people I know just:
1. Try building something
2. When stuck, Google or ChatGPT. Or even ask a question on a forum like this, but a much more targeted one. Usually some form of “I tried X, Y, and Z but can’t get Q to work. Any suggestions for workarounds?” - not some elementary level question like “how do I learn python?” At the end of the day, people are more likely to help you when you’ve told them what you’ve tried already, otherwise you come across as someone who isn’t willing to put in any effort or just wants to be spoonfed knowledge.
3. Rinse and repeat

You say you have 10 years of experience - with that much experience you should have already “learned how to learn” and unblock yourself. I used to coach engineers on my team about this as it’s what separates people who can ship and are assets vs. those that can’t and will slow the team down (or in the case of entrepreneurship, it’s a showstopper for building a successful company)

That might sound harsh but this is super important to running a business or building your own products too too. You have to be willing to execute, try things on your own + get it done at all costs with a minimal amount of outside assistance.

I'm triggered cause of the expectations I had with this platform. I asked a simple question but he chose to respond with some generic "builders build" comment, taking an opportunity to stroke his own ego.

I've asked the same question on Twitter, and some other communities, and got amazing responses!

The key to my question is the timeline: Max knowledge of fundamentals in a short period of time. If anything I see it as a mental resourcing challenge.

Entrepreneurs with intellectual humility would have better responses than trying to grandstand.

If you're wondering what a quality response looks like, I got these on other platforms:

  1. Watch Andrej Karpathy's YouTube video series.
  2. Book suggestion: Hands-on machine learning with scikit learn O'Reilly.

I know how to learn, but when there are millions of sources to learn on the internet, I was just looking for some specific direction from somebody who's done it before.

You’re reading way too much into it and you’re way off center. There’s no ego stroking - “just build it” is legit advice for learning something new, particularly on a fast timeline, and on a free platform I have no idea why you would have any expectations in terms of the responses you’d receive. It would be a different story if you were paying for mentorship or something along those lines.

If he really wanted to say "just build it," there's a difference between saying:

  1. "building is the best way" versus
  2. "this is a builder community. builders learn by building. if we were in your shoes we would build"

I know this is a building community. He automatically assumed that I wasn't a builder purely cause I didn't keep my streak up. The language is indicative of virtue signaling -- that he and his gang of builders are superior to someone asking a genuine question.

This doesn't require too much reading into it. The english is plain grandstanding and in-grouping.

Ok, tl;dr you don't like the way the answer was worded and your feelings were hurt. Fair. I'd still encourage you to a) remain centered even if you don't like some feedback you're getting b) look at the core of the answer vs. the way it was worded.

It's what worked for me too. I went from 0 to 1 in Python learning on the job shipping code and building stuff to meet a deadline. I don't know another effective way of learning a new skill fast.

Good luck!

looking at all the replies here it seems that the concept of building 12 products a year is fundamentally flawed.

I didn't subscribe to the idea of 12 products a year, but I did naively subscribed to the idea that you can be done with one SaaS and move on to another. I guess it's an illusion. If I care to build 2 products, I need to be able to invest split energy into them in some shape or form as long as I own them.

Disagree. I think the whole point of 12 startups in 12 months is to build and ship until something starts to show traction, then go all in on that thing and sell or shut down the other startups that aren't worth your time. So you're never really maintaining 12 at once, you're maintaining 1.

I think it's a great model to decrease streak by 1 every day we missed something. Personally, I struggle to always post before midnight and I lost my streak many times, leading to a point of apathy towards streaks.

On top of it, I've also seen many people just hacking the streaks by just posting random updates like "Have breakfast," which I don't think is truthful towards posting an actual "Work In Progress" update. This caused further apathy.

Side note: Maybe you can use AI to detect if the post is actually about a Project or some random update.

Last point, as humans we are motivated by hope; when I see some streaks like that of @levelsio I lose all hope because I'll never be able to get the top position. Even if I get to 1000 days, Peter will be at 2000 days LOL

The landing page itself is a WIP. I was hoping if you could the app itself. Will surely, take your offer on honest review once I have the landing page.

Thanks Ashwin, the landing page is work in progress. Have you tried the app itself?