After 1373 days of streak (and nearly 4 years of travel), I got high with my friends at Bamboo Hut and forgot to log the day's events.
I actually did fixes on #kornwolf that day and took photos of a plant I bought for #nils, but forgot to /done that night and only realized the next morning, when I saw @levelsio's update. It affected me more than I thought it would (and should?). Non-attachment, yada yada.
It's definitely discouraging me from starting another 4 year streak, but I agree that there is value in a hardcore contiguous challenge. Don't take it away! 🔥
I also agree with others that it could be fun to introduce a secondary system, just like Tweakers.net has karma points and 'Tweakotine': tweakers.net/plan/3058/het-tw…
WIP could have different ways to gain (and lose) karma by using the website. Not just score and leaderboard, but also 'ranks' and badges based on your actions: lurking, todos, commenting and receiving likes, answering questions, creating new projects, launching, keeping your backlog clean (or not!)... everything could have an impact. Lot of possibilities for gamification. 🧬
Hahaa can imagine. Lost a 100 day streak after getting drunk and checking my phone at 00:06... nasty hangover...
I felt invested in your streak, it was very impressive and fun to follow along. I felt a bit bummed out once you lost it even though I've never met you. I think that's the power of the 'hardcore' streak. It says something about a person. If there are all these exceptions and soft streaks it loses it's meaning.
Something like Tweakers karma could be a good addition if the community grows more. But there's about 100 (?) active members, so you already get a vibe of the activity of people.
One the one hand the streak is just a number in a database, but on the other hand it also represents all the hard you put in over the years and the consistency with which you did so.
So I think it makes a lot of sense that you grow an attachment to that number and so it hurts when you lose it.
I think those are the two sides to the metaphorical streak coin. It motivates you to keep going and the longer you keep going, the more invested you get, and so the power powerful that sense of commitment becomes.
But when you do eventually lose it, it has the opposite effect. It's really discouraging and based on anecdotal observations it seems like many members kinda start to tune out of WIP after that. It just seems like an insurmountable mountain to get back to that number.
That's why I'm considering alternatives to the current streak system. Not necessarily to replace it, but something to augment that hardcore easy-to-loose streak with something more forgiving.
A karma system is an interesting idea, but implementations always seem rather arbitrary to me. If completing a todo gives you +10 points, how much would a comment be? Etc.
But perhaps I'm overthinking it, and it's not about getting it exactly right. Just reward people for doing cool stuff in the community.
I'll give it some thought the coming weeks. I do like the idea of badges for concrete achievements. Getting the top streak. Losing your first streak. Adding your 5th project. Etc.
After 1373 days of streak (and nearly 4 years of travel), I got high with my friends at Bamboo Hut and forgot to log the day's events.
I actually did fixes on
#kornwolf that day and took photos of a plant I bought for 
#nils, but forgot to /done that night and only realized the next morning, when I saw @levelsio's update. It affected me more than I thought it would (and should?). Non-attachment, yada yada.
It's definitely discouraging me from starting another 4 year streak, but I agree that there is value in a hardcore contiguous challenge. Don't take it away! 🔥
I also agree with others that it could be fun to introduce a secondary system, just like Tweakers.net has karma points and 'Tweakotine': tweakers.net/plan/3058/het-tw…
WIP could have different ways to gain (and lose) karma by using the website. Not just score and leaderboard, but also 'ranks' and badges based on your actions: lurking, todos, commenting and receiving likes, answering questions, creating new projects, launching, keeping your backlog clean (or not!)... everything could have an impact. Lot of possibilities for gamification. 🧬
Thank you for reminding me of this amazing song from the year 2000 😄www.youtube.com/watch?v=WeYsT…
That said, you have my full sympathy!
Hahaa can imagine. Lost a 100 day streak after getting drunk and checking my phone at 00:06... nasty hangover...
I felt invested in your streak, it was very impressive and fun to follow along. I felt a bit bummed out once you lost it even though I've never met you. I think that's the power of the 'hardcore' streak. It says something about a person. If there are all these exceptions and soft streaks it loses it's meaning.
Something like Tweakers karma could be a good addition if the community grows more. But there's about 100 (?) active members, so you already get a vibe of the activity of people.
Thanks for sharing 🙌
One the one hand the streak is just a number in a database, but on the other hand it also represents all the hard you put in over the years and the consistency with which you did so.
So I think it makes a lot of sense that you grow an attachment to that number and so it hurts when you lose it.
I think those are the two sides to the metaphorical streak coin. It motivates you to keep going and the longer you keep going, the more invested you get, and so the power powerful that sense of commitment becomes.
But when you do eventually lose it, it has the opposite effect. It's really discouraging and based on anecdotal observations it seems like many members kinda start to tune out of WIP after that. It just seems like an insurmountable mountain to get back to that number.
That's why I'm considering alternatives to the current streak system. Not necessarily to replace it, but something to augment that hardcore easy-to-loose streak with something more forgiving.
A karma system is an interesting idea, but implementations always seem rather arbitrary to me. If completing a todo gives you +10 points, how much would a comment be? Etc.
But perhaps I'm overthinking it, and it's not about getting it exactly right. Just reward people for doing cool stuff in the community.
I'll give it some thought the coming weeks. I do like the idea of badges for concrete achievements. Getting the top streak. Losing your first streak. Adding your 5th project. Etc.
I was always wondering what happened to your streak haha. I was surprised I felt loss when I lost my 200 day streak as well.