Harry Dry
@harrydry
Interesting. Part of me thinks wip manages itself really well.
There's a line somewhere: "give and you shall receive tenfold"
And I think this applies. The community is pretty good at applauding the givers and sometimes even reprimands people if they are clearly using wip for excessive self promotion.
But. Yes I would like some sort of reward given to the most helpful people.
My idea is: "Community member of the week / month"
Just a little badge given each month to the person who helps the most which shows up alongside patron / fire streak on the homepage. It could be a vote from all the wip members. Only the winner is announced. No other places are announced (so it doesn't turn into a big competition) And yes people could win more than once.
As well as rewarding people for being good members of the community. It also reminds people of the importance to help others out!
That's a great idea!
Should members be able to vote for each other, or should we just calculate based on number of applauds?
Not every helpful act might get an applause, but voting on members might suffer from recency/availability bias. (i.e. you give more weight to the people that are familiar and/or who helped you the last 2 days or so, rather than the full month).
great. I'll try and find some clones. good luck with your own launch.
mine is less like a chat room, but instead like a 1:1 based chat.
i think its all about "people giving more than they are taking" .
For example: Someone who only posts once every 3 months to promote their new product. Clearly that person is taking and not giving. Compared to someone who always helps people / provides feedback & keeps moral up. Clearly they are giving more than their taking. If everyone takes more than they give the community shrivels and slowly dies. If its the other way around the community grows and is a happy place!
Someone you have to incentivise people to give more than they take.
BTW (thanks for all the amazing help from the givers. Sometimes I take too much. I'm working on it. OK!)
That's a great point. Do you see this happening already?
I think 'curating' the community will become more important over time. Right now anyone can sign up if they are willing to pay. If this becomes a problem we can move towards an invite-only model.
Another approach would be to decrease the ability for people to just 'take'. For example by ranking questions, product launches, etc by how active the person is in the community. People who answer a lot of questions would have their own questions show higher up on the page, etc. Or maybe you cannot even ask a question until you've meaningfully answered a couple.
Interesting. Part of me thinks wip manages itself really well.
There's a line somewhere: "give and you shall receive tenfold"
And I think this applies. The community is pretty good at applauding the givers and sometimes even reprimands people if they are clearly using wip for excessive self promotion.
But. Yes I would like some sort of reward given to the most helpful people.
My idea is: "Community member of the week / month"
Just a little badge given each month to the person who helps the most which shows up alongside patron / fire streak on the homepage. It could be a vote from all the wip members. Only the winner is announced. No other places are announced (so it doesn't turn into a big competition) And yes people could win more than once.
As well as rewarding people for being good members of the community. It also reminds people of the importance to help others out!
That's a great idea!
Should members be able to vote for each other, or should we just calculate based on number of applauds?
Not every helpful act might get an applause, but voting on members might suffer from recency/availability bias. (i.e. you give more weight to the people that are familiar and/or who helped you the last 2 days or so, rather than the full month).
totally agree with this. im still a big fan of wip and use it to ask / answer questions + enjoy reading that chat but the streak element I feel a bit lost on. i just log my todos myself now. reason being: When i spend 5 hours on solving one today to get my streak going it just a bit demoralising seeing someone "keep their streak up" with such a nothing todo.
(But for some people they love the streak. So I'm not saying we take that away. just saying it doesn't work for me )
A couple of years ago the media were calling for Roger Federer to retire. He was on an bad run of and slipping down the rankings. When asked in an interview about retiring he said this:
"Sometimes you're just happy playing. Some people, some media, unfortunately, don't understand that it's okay just to play tennis and enjoy it. They always think you have to win everything, it always needs to be a success story, and if it's not, obviously, what is the point? Maybe you have to go back and think, Why have I started playing tennis? Because I just like it. It's actually sort of a dream hobby that became somewhat of a job. Some people just don't get that, ever."
This summarises me my mindset. Replace the words "play tennis" with "make stuff" and reread Federer's answer.
Enjoyed reading that a lot :)
thanks alexander!